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Postby Deezee » Sat Jul 01, 2006 5:34 pm

Moe that BGM16 was awesome! Thank you very much! :D
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Postby Moe » Tue Jul 04, 2006 7:29 pm

Slower version of BGM16 or Robot X with violin arrangement.

http://www.momoshare.com/audio/view.php?play=b92dafa7548d75e07cf814529e798843
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Postby kaleth » Tue Jul 04, 2006 9:57 pm

Whoa! Nice work Moe, it truly makes the impression of fighting a madman.
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Postby Deezee » Wed Jul 05, 2006 12:24 pm

Moe wrote:Slower version of BGM16 or Robot X with violin arrangement.

http://www.momoshare.com/audio/view.php?play=b92dafa7548d75e07cf814529e798843



Cool. I love it! Thanks! :wink:
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Postby Sentenza » Wed Jul 05, 2006 6:25 pm

Deezee wrote:
Moe wrote:Slower version of BGM16 or Robot X with violin arrangement.

http://www.momoshare.com/audio/view.php?play=b92dafa7548d75e07cf814529e798843



Cool. I love it! Thanks! :wink:


That Robot X music for the win. Its a flawless victory in my book.
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Postby caroline » Thu Jul 06, 2006 2:33 am

Thats a cool mix of BM16 Moe. i really like that slow twisted violin.

Co-incidently my friend Frank not long sent me a link to an early version he's been working on.. Its outta this world. U gotta hear it, very Yuzo-1994-style.

http://www.myfilehut.com/userfiles/124303/Sor3.mp3

:o Talk about crazy / energetic.
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Postby Jigsaw » Thu Jul 06, 2006 2:59 pm

Lots of great stuff in this thread.


Kaleth, I loved your version of the Moon Beach theme... but the BK3 character select music? DAMN! That's something else! I can't believe such awesomeness could come out of that trainwreck of a "song". Shame it's so short, though! You should definitely expand on it. :)
Expander is pretty cool too, but not crazy impressive like the other two, IMO. They all sound great though, and I can't really think of any criticism. Can't wait to hear more stuff from you.



Moe, I really like your mixes too, I'd definitely want to hear longer versions of the songs. Unfortunately the oldest stuff seems to have been removed, but here's a few comments on the songs I was able to take a listen to.

Construction Zone - Cool, I'm really digging the drums! They fit the song perfectly. I don't really like the rest of it as much... Actually, I'm not sure if it's the actual song/remix I dislike, or simply the mastering. The instruments sound nice, but the melodic parts are sort of faint in the background, and that just sounds kind of weird to me. If the melody was more prominent, and maybe the drums modified to make it sound a little more upbeat, I'd probabbly like it much more.

Beach - Well, it's certainly different from the original. It sounds kind of... I'm not entirely sure how to explain it, but it feels alot more calm, or soft compared to the original. It doesn't sound bad, but I don't think it manages to give the same sensations as the original song. Of course, I don't know what your intentions were, but all things considered I do prefer the original.

Elevator - Awesome! I only have two quibbles with this one: I think the tempo should be upped a little bit, and I'm not entirely in love with the choice of lead instrument for the main part. Change those two things, though, and it'd be PERFECT.

Subway - Great! I really like this arrangement. The original version was a little chaotic, and some of those experimental, amelodic qualities which made some BK3 songs nigh unbearable... Yours is a little easier on the ears, and I like that. I really like the new drums, and the overall "feel" of the song. Somehow it feels a little more BK2, and a little less BK3. And that's a good thing. :)

Warehouse - Not really sure what to make of it. I wasn't a big fan of this song in the original game, and I'm not now either. The remix is faithful, but the subject matter is still uninteresting to me.

Mr. X - Hard to say what I think about it, to be honest. At this point I do think it sounds awkward, but it could just as well turn into something amazing once drums are in place. The drums/beat is what'll make or break this song, in my mind.

Yamato theme - Pretty cool, a little crazy sounding... definitely in the vein of the original song. It's a great start, but I think it's in dire need of a heavier, more clearly defined beat. With the right bass drum, I think it could sound really awesome.

Basketball court - Not bad, it's one of my favourite songs in BK3, and I think you're being faithful without being too boring. I'm not a huge fan of the intro, but once the song gets going it sounds great. It's hard to give a complete judgment as it sort of cuts off just as the song is about to "kick in", but it does sound promising.

Robot X - Well... the first version has awesome drums, and a great feel to it that simply gets you pumped to kick some ass, but the piano simply doesn't sound very good. The second version on the other hand, has a great sounding violin, and feels much more melodic... If you could couple the melody from the second version with the beat and tempo of the first version, it could sound really great. But as it stands I'm not particularly fond of either version.
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Postby kaleth » Thu Jul 06, 2006 3:43 pm

Thank you Jigsaw for your kind words! :D

Regarding the BK3 character screen music, it's hard to expand on something that would last 7 measly seconds if it wasn't for its own repetitiveness. :)

If you want to hear the last I did, it is the Shinobi III jetski theme that could play in the hypothetical jetski stage for SORR: http://rapidshare.de/files/25027695/kw4.mp3.html
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Postby Nightwolf » Thu Jul 06, 2006 3:47 pm

the jetski theme is a nice music, but doesnt have the Sor style. You need to change the instruments, because sounds like an arcade, yes, a pretty good one, but not Sor style. And THAT's very important. :)
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Postby kaleth » Thu Jul 06, 2006 4:12 pm

Nightwolf wrote:the jetski theme is a nice music, but doesnt have the Sor style. You need to change the instruments, because sounds like an arcade, yes, a pretty good one, but not Sor style. And THAT's very important. :)


I don't think that only the instruments should be changed then. The music itself is kind of a hardtrance while SOR tends to be house/techno/hardcore. Maybe I could keep the fast tempo but anything else should change then. So, I will see what can be done with it.
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Postby caroline » Thu Jul 06, 2006 6:37 pm

the jetski theme is a nice music, but doesnt have the Sor style. You need to change the instruments, because sounds like an arcade, yes, a pretty good one, but not Sor style. And THAT's very important.


I agree.

Think that this game is a compliment and 'enchancement' of the SOR seris..

Ive just listened to most of these mixes from you guys..

Overall they are just too weak and actually sound way too midi, from what i can tell they’ve just been put through a Midi device and instruments changed..

Use FM synthesis at least!!!

Already you've lost some of the engery when no FM is used.. Its was the good use of the 'FM' that really made SOR tunes stand out in the first place.

A good example is my freinds version of SOR lift music:
http://www.myfilehut.com/userfiles/124303/lift.mp3

You hear how the tune is 'complemented' and not ruined. That’s sound 200% more like Yuzo-style than the version posted here.

Also Franks Version of Dreamer:
http://www.myfilehut.com/userfiles/124303/dreamer7.mp3

That’s includes all the 'hairs on the back on the neck sounds' but is also complimented with the enhanced and perfectly programmed drums.

The music is so important for a SOR game, u have to get it strong enough the fit the action and not sound 'weaker' than it.

No, disrespect any of the arrangers here but i really want people who D/L the Final SORr to really hear the 'strength' and greatness of its music also.

I hope noone took any offense, its just i feel passionate about SOR :oops: 8)
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Postby AxelStone » Fri Jul 07, 2006 2:15 pm

The remix of the SoR3 character select music is simply amazing. I never thought that would be possible, but it's been pulled off really well. Good work.
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Postby DeXsTeR » Fri Jul 07, 2006 2:26 pm

caroline your friends music is good but for me they're to much like the originlas...this is a remake so little shake up in the music would be good.
all in all your friends mixes are good but it's so unfortunate that gecko aint here,he was a true master at this type of thing.he is the best remixer by far and his baseball level remix is for me his best work(sid of rage) :o
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Postby Nightwolf » Fri Jul 07, 2006 2:30 pm

Caroline, those music are remades, not remixes.


The music we are aiming is, like DeXsTeR said, similar to Gecko did. Clear instruments, and no more chip tunes. Because we are not limited to that! :)
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