Characters discussion

[alexcano1982]

I guess I'll write a guide dedicated to him if I keep playing more. This was love at first sight, that's for sure.

Yes, a guide would be nice! I quite enjoyed your Rudra guide and Max is my favorite character. I just cant' seem to play as him on the higher difficulty settings b/c galsias and donovans tag me quicker than he moves. A Game-pro Vecta guide will help me master Max on the Mania level.

[Don Vecta]

Gosh! Does anyone play with Zan? I just played with him and I simply couldn't continue playing. Perhaps someone can play well with him? He's kinda fast but he's the weakest piss-poor guy, his rush combo does crappy damage, his grabs are also weaksauce, perhaps the only decent damage grab is from behind. His special has no reach whatsoever and enemies laugh at my face if I try to stop them from hitting them with it (literally if there are Big-Bens). His fireball spcial is ALSO crap, hit companions and even myself which is a suicide thing if I have few energy (oh yeah, and does shitty damage to enemies too).

He's fast but I can't do Rudra's run & grab technique, he's not that fast enough. His reach is good but that's it, he can be easily outflanked by the super turbo SOR1 enemies.

Can anyone give out pointers why he *could* be awesome? Cuz so far I can't find anything awesome on him.

[kmc]

I've seen somebody classing Ash in the top tiers. I've been trying him/her but I'm not happy.

* The jab (b) has such a huge lag to finish. You constantly feel frozen when failing to land the first hit on enemies. And while the jab has such a short reach, I often missed the first hit and leave my back to enemies.
* The basic blitz sucks. Surly you can use this to escape from crowds, but with the long pause, you can't combo your blitz after two jabs. And when you want to run and hit enemies with your blitz, they just walk back to dodge. And the blitz does less damage. 2 and 3 stars are cool but stars are hard to collect.

The only impressive thing I found is the rolling (vertical jump), such a long time of invincibility to escape from crowds. Easy to survive in motorbikes.

[realnabarl]

Gosh! Does anyone play with Zan? I just played with him and I simply couldn't continue playing. Perhaps someone can play well with him? He's kinda fast but he's the weakest piss-poor guy, his rush combo does crappy damage, his grabs are also weaksauce, perhaps the only decent damage grab is from behind. His special has no reach whatsoever and enemies laugh at my face if I try to stop them from hitting them with it (literally if there are Big-Bens). His fireball spcial is ALSO crap, hit companions and even myself which is a suicide thing if I have few energy (oh yeah, and does shitty damage to enemies too).

He's fast but I can't do Rudra's run & grab technique, he's not that fast enough. His reach is good but that's it, he can be easily outflanked by the super turbo SOR1 enemies.

Can anyone give out pointers why he *could* be awesome? Cuz so far I can't find anything awesome on him.

Zan is my least favorite char of SoR series.

I tried him before, I played in the two ways with him:
Spam the 3 stars blitz, it can move vertically.
Spam the 0/1 star blitz. Left and right! Left and right! Sometimes pressing A to avoid hitting. But the player might feel himself stupid when doing that.

He can do the job well, but it will be boring I guess.

[Poor]

Gosh! Does anyone play with Zan? I just played with him and I simply couldn't continue playing. Perhaps someone can play well with him? He's kinda fast but he's the weakest piss-poor guy, his rush combo does crappy damage, his grabs are also weaksauce, perhaps the only decent damage grab is from behind. His special has no reach whatsoever and enemies laugh at my face if I try to stop them from hitting them with it (literally if there are Big-Bens). His fireball spcial is ALSO crap, hit companions and even myself which is a suicide thing if I have few energy (oh yeah, and does shitty damage to enemies too).

He's fast but I can't do Rudra's run & grab technique, he's not that fast enough. His reach is good but that's it, he can be easily outflanked by the super turbo SOR1 enemies.

Can anyone give out pointers why he *could* be awesome? Cuz so far I can't find anything awesome on him.

I love playing with Zan. His reach is great and is huge with a weapon. He is good at handling large group of enemies because of his reach and ability to throw enemies at other enemies. It's real easy to avoid damage with him. His slam throw can be done repeatedly because the enemy lands right at your feet. The lightning ball doesn't do a lot of damage but it can knock down enemies with a large reach (flaming big bens, boxers) and make ninjas drop their weapons. His forward special isn't that useful so just use his 2-star blitz.

[Don Vecta]

Spam the 0/1 star blitz. Left and right! Left and right! Sometimes pressing A to avoid hitting. But the player might feel himself stupid when doing that.

He can do the job well, but it will be boring I guess.

I found his Blitz quite effective against those fucking Abadedes since it's a one-hit knockdown.

He might not be bad (thanx Poor for your input) but I guess that's the thing: I found him EXTREMELY boring.

[Elmo]

I also stopped playing with Zan because I was unable to find a fun working strategy yet. I abstain from judgement, though - I was dead wrong with Max too ...

I had no problems whatsoever with Ash, though. I also recall no lag or problems with his Blitz (which I found quite spammable). I much more easily finished the game on Mania using Ash than with my favorite char, SOR1 Blaze.

Elmo

[realnabarl]

Is Shiva an Indian?
At first I think he is more like an Asian. Maybe a Japanese, a Chinese, an East Asian or a Southeast Asian?
But Shiva is a name from India.

And this avatar makes him fking like an Indian.

And looks like a good guy as well.

[Elmo]

Anyway ... regarding the Blaze chars. I guess it's safe to say that, despite the agility, SOR3 Blaze is the weakest of the bunch (and yes, I use "combined" delay). But I'm not quite sure whether SOR1 Blaze or SOR2 Blaze is the strongest ... opinions?

Elmo

[Stunts]

Anyway ... regarding the Blaze chars. I guess it's safe to say that, despite the agility, SOR3 Blaze is the weakest of the bunch (and yes, I use "combined" delay). But I'm not quite sure whether SOR1 Blaze or SOR2 Blaze is the strongest ... opinions?

Elmo

In terms of attack power and hitbox: SoR2
In terms of everything else: SoR1

Though SoR2 is still my favorite.

[realnabarl]

Anyway ... regarding the Blaze chars. I guess it's safe to say that, despite the agility, SOR3 Blaze is the weakest of the bunch (and yes, I use "combined" delay). But I'm not quite sure whether SOR1 Blaze or SOR2 Blaze is the strongest ... opinions?

Elmo

Definitely SoR2 Blaze.

[BigDarsh]

About Zan: It's my 5th character, so it's neither my favorite nor my cpu killer. Therefore, the spamming technique of his blitz are one of the best way to play him lol.

About Abadede, he has a infinite combo very useful. Get the right range, use jab attack, abadede will special out but you are too far to get reach by it, so you can punish his special foreverer.

I think Zan is a very good partner for stronger characters, in single mode, it takes too much time to kill people and he has poor recovery time on his combo ender...

About Blaze I vs Blaze II: Blaze II is my third character and I really like her. I tried to play Blaze I and I don't understand what's make her that great.
I mean, I do think she has very good weapons that BK II don't. Here I list them:
-Rear Attack as great range with knockdown
-Jumping forward Kick is "Boss wise" . I mean the hitbox and the hit detect are similar to the twins! To me, it's the best jumping attack of the game (equal with Elle maybe)
-her SoR I knife's stab as great range and knockdown.

But I think the best stuff about BK II blaze is that free 360° attack (rear attack). If you get surrounded while comboing someone, just finish hit with that and make everyone kiss the floor and you still have your meter to evade grenades or explosive robots.

She has a very powerfull and invincible slam throw from the front and it works against SoRI/III fat guys.

She has a shorter recovery on her combo ender than BK I Blaze (less damage though)

I didn't notice something that has to be told about her specials but maybe I miss something.

Can someone explain me what makes BK I Blaze that powerfull? (seriously, no fan service, I just want to learn something)

[realnabarl]

Can someone explain me what makes BK I Blaze that powerfull? (seriously, no fan service, I just want to learn something)

I don't think SoR1 Blaze is very powerful, I like her everything besides her strength.
The biggest problem of SoR1 Blaze is her end move of her combo. 0/1 star blitz is not stable. 2/3 stars blitz sucks. Her Kikosho is ok, but not as good as SoR2 Blaze's one.

[Elmo]

Can someone explain me what makes BK I Blaze that powerfull? (seriously, no fan service, I just want to learn something)

I don't think SoR1 Blaze is very powerful, I like her everything besides her strength.
The biggest problem of SoR1 Blaze is her end move of her combo. 0/1 star blitz is not stable. 2/3 stars blitz sucks. Her Kikosho is ok, but not as good as SoR2 Blaze's one.

I thought that her blitzes suck until Don told me to execute them early. However Blaze II has probably even better blitzes ... and Blaze II also seems better with the pipes/bats.

Some great features of Blaze I are indeed her "bossy" jumpkick (which IMO is much better than Elle's even though Elle's kick SOUNDS stronger when it hits) and her strong rearkick. Other than that, the character somehow feels "whole" to me, maybe just *because* no move is especially great, but rather a variety of moves are equally usable. While, with some chars, I am always tempted to spam certain moves all the time, this is not the case with Blaze I. Other than that I'm probably a fanboy and just can't help it.

Elmo

[kmc]

But I think the best stuff about BK II blaze is that free 360° attack (rear attack).

Does it really hits 360 (front and back) and make Blaze safe like defensive attack? I don't think so.